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So I have just had the TH up on a lift to do measurements for brake cooling ducts.
While up there, I started searching for ride level sensors. I might be missing something, whichh I highly doubt because both my landcruiser 100 and wifes GC summit edition have level sensor, the TH has only 2. They are both located on the right front and right rear.
Now my theory is that the controller is doing a lot of compensation for the left side or just mimicing what the programming is. The left front has the location for the sensor built in, I could not find a wire plug, but, ball joint and the welded screws are in place, all that would be needed is to install the sensor and the wire harness which should go directly to the suspension controller, the left rear seems to have the plate for the sensor but has a connector plug there instead used for something else.
Just wondering how good the upgraded controller unit would be with all 4 corners being measured and if that is why DSC has not made a unit for our TH
While up there, I started searching for ride level sensors. I might be missing something, whichh I highly doubt because both my landcruiser 100 and wifes GC summit edition have level sensor, the TH has only 2. They are both located on the right front and right rear.
Now my theory is that the controller is doing a lot of compensation for the left side or just mimicing what the programming is. The left front has the location for the sensor built in, I could not find a wire plug, but, ball joint and the welded screws are in place, all that would be needed is to install the sensor and the wire harness which should go directly to the suspension controller, the left rear seems to have the plate for the sensor but has a connector plug there instead used for something else.
Just wondering how good the upgraded controller unit would be with all 4 corners being measured and if that is why DSC has not made a unit for our TH
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Handled pretty well prior. I already have black opps arms etc. I dont feel like adjusting and customizing parameters.
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Vanquishglory, I think you are giving the TH suspension more credit that it deserves. I believe the TH ride height sensors are only used for initial aiming of the headlight projectors at engine start up so they do not blind oncoming drivers. Only 2 sensors are needed for comparing the front to rear suspension ride heights looking to see if your cargo weight is enough to alter the rear suspension height from normal.
I do not think the suspension controller is doing any compensation for the left side nor the right side as it likely doesn't have any direct inputs from the ride height sensors.
So an upgraded controller would work exactly the same with either 2 stock sensors or with 4, it really does not matter IMO. These aftermarket suspension controllers are looking at built in OEM sensor bus data like G-Force (for braking, acceleration, cornering) steering angle and throttle percentage to make a decision on what electrical current amount it sends to each shock affecting their damping rates through dynamic "shock valving".
DSC does already make a suspension controller that is compatible with the TH (the one for the Charger and Challenger) however DSC just do not market it that way.
I cannot disagree with one word you wrote. Probably am over thinking the system. The thing that keeps me wondering is why the charger/challenger have 4 sensors and we only have 2.
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That I cannot answer as the only Mopar I have owned is a Hawk. But quickly looking at what programming settings are in the Diablosport and DSC controllers I don't think the Charger/Challenger cars use the 4 sensors for suspension calibration changes.
If they did these cars would likely had dynamic shock damping straight from the factory to compete with say GM's Magnaride dynamic suspension, but they do not. The Mopar suspension tuning for the shocks only have static damping settings such as Auto, Sport, Track etc.
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Sounds great, I would like to have the suspension react dynamically to changing sensors inputs as it should have come that way originally from Jeep. Having fixed static settings for each mode is very outdated by todays standards, compared to other manufacturers, as it compromises each drive mode IMO.
When I have more free time I plan on purchasing a HellCat DSC controller for my Hawk as I like their software options and the ability to change controller calibration settings as many times as you want.
Glad you are enjoying your Diablosport controller. 👍
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FYI, the DCS hellcat controller works great in the Trackhawk. I am doing final testing with the owner but plug and play works great.
That’s great to hear. What would you say it improves?
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Thank you for verifying a HellCat DSC Sport controller is plug and play compatible with our TrackHawks. 👍 I am still very much interested in adding one to my Hawk for the ability to software tune the suspension feel to my preferences. But since my Hawk will be stored until next spring I have not pursued purchasing one just yet.
To help us all out, I just want to confirm you used the SRT Hellcat DSC Sport V3 controller Model #: 02-HLCT-06-V3 ?
SRT Hellcat – Controller | DSC Sport
www.dscsport.com
What software are you using? What are you trying to achieve? I have the diablosport controller and played around with the settings, made my TH ride smoother with the eibach special editions lowering stiffness of shocks.
If you really want to understand how to use the software and what everything represents, I suggest you read the through the thread in the link below. That is how I figured out what everything does before I started playing with the settings. I recommend you make a backup file of the orginal settings before you start changing things up.
You can adjust street, sport and track settings separately, so basically you can play with only street,sport or track and set one up to your needs/liking and then tranfser those settings to the suspension map you want it to represent.
Example would be in my case, I wanted a softer ride for daily driving, I used the track map to mess with untill I reached my desired settings, I took those settings and updated the street map and reverted the track settings to original spec that came with the controller.
www.hellcat.org
You can adjust street, sport and track settings separately, so basically you can play with only street,sport or track and set one up to your needs/liking and then tranfser those settings to the suspension map you want it to represent.
Example would be in my case, I wanted a softer ride for daily driving, I used the track map to mess with untill I reached my desired settings, I took those settings and updated the street map and reverted the track settings to original spec that came with the controller.
Diablosport suspension controller
I received mine last night and the install is easy & straightforward. It appears to me that the Touring / Street and the Track modes are the same from the files that I read from my controller, at least on the G Comfort Parameters (On G Comfort the Street / Touring and Track were both at 34...
www.hellcat.org
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Yea ive read through that thread several times iver theast few months as well as watchrd the youtube videos on the dsc controller. Still cant quite understand, when launching or roll racing how to avhieve better weight transfer. I did save an original back up of the diablo sport file. And made slight changes here and there to copies. To no avail.
What tires are you using first of all? If i have warm tires I barely break traction in the rear, in my case i actually prefer a little traction loss than wheel hopping. I do not have any suspension mods except springs and controller.
For drag setup you want to go and change the rear chamber setup. The TH has a setup for better cornering with more negative chamber. As the TH squats you only get more negative chamber.
For drag setup you want to go and change the rear chamber setup. The TH has a setup for better cornering with more negative chamber. As the TH squats you only get more negative chamber.
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